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WahooMatt05
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Well I wasn’t alive during a raging smallpox pandemic.
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What metrics would you use to indicate we are post-pandemic?
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FrankGallagher
12/06/2021 07:47AM
757 gave the correct answer below
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NJHoo
12/06/2021 2:15PM
In a medical sense, social/personal sense or economic sense?i
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Lupos
12/06/2021 10:34AM
Not particularly responsive to your question, but one observation re: masks
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Stimp
12/06/2021 09:52AM
The worker shortage has motivated me to put it back on.
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CavMan1
12/06/2021 10:35AM
LOL you really think the business owner gives a damn?
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 10:52AM
What creates your own (unjustified) perception of moral superiority?
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 11:15AM
I find it hilarious that people think they're making a difference....
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 11:27AM
Most of the other selfish pricks I know have a warped sense of humor too. **
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 11:32AM
It's selfish for the COVID-obsessed to risk dining indoors in the 1st place
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 11:38AM
Explain that one to me. How is a Covid obsessed person, just by virtue of
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 12:52PM
Would love to find this unicorn you call an unvaxxed masker
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 1:17PM
Ok. I guess that’s an answer to some question. Incomprehensible as it is,
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 1:48PM
If not required I usually go by the employees
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WahooMatt05
12/06/2021 10:04AM
And wearing if properly. Lots of chinstraps among folks out there. **
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FrankGallagher
12/06/2021 10:06AM
It's wild how this varies so much by locality. Out here in LaLa Land,...
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 09:57AM
It is far from 100% in NY, certainly in grocery stores.
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 10:04AM
I'd have to guess blanket enforcement of masks and vaccines is...
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 10:22AM
Yeah, I’m in NYC right now. Definitely
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 10:16AM
It’s the new normal, IMO, although it will vary by…
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 09:32AM
More dangerous than usual for the elderly, sick,
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 09:59AM
Not sure who is saying "fuck em". I got vaccinated, they should be vaxed
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CAVern
12/06/2021 10:31AM
The people who try to claim that covid is
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 10:35AM
Yes we have. i'd say in 5 or 10 years we'll know long term effects very
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CAVern
12/06/2021 10:45AM
My understanding is there
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 11:30AM
Not even close. **
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 10:06AM
They remain desperate to portray this virus as an outsized threat to kids
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 10:14AM
It's disturbing -- I could never have imagined I'd see anything...
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 10:24AM
40% of the country is obese, 17% is over
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 10:12AM
It's not close. Your 17% figure is accurate, but...
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 10:34AM
Of course hospitals are still cancelling surgeries because of Covid
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Hooooooooooooooo
12/06/2021 11:13AM
That’s not why they are cancelling surgeries. **
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 12:28PM
Oh, please, please tell us why they are then. **
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 4:56PM
Precautions and, in some cases, staffing issues. **
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 5:09PM
How many hospitals fired people for refusing the flu vaccine?
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 11:30AM
All Frontline healthcare workers at UVA are required to get the flu vaccine **
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111Balz
12/06/2021 1:10PM
Sounds like the Cleveland Clinic has jobs for the unvaxxed **
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 1:18PM
Sounds like once again you don’t have a clue about the only subject you
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111Balz
12/06/2021 1:33PM
How many were fired has no corrolation on the number of Covid patients in
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Hooooooooooooooo
12/06/2021 11:43AM
Chef can't serve as many meals in an understaffed restaurant
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 12:06PM
Ok, but the more you narrow down the
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 10:52AM
So it would appear that Covid is more lethal than the flu by a not
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Hooooooooooooooo
12/06/2021 11:16AM
It’s not hard. “COVID deaths” are inflated…
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 11:13AM
Except for the fact that
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 11:40AM
I can and have explained it to you on this very board…
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 12:32PM
The “so what?” question is very
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 1:07PM
I don’t think we have enough meaningful data to say…
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 2:20PM
I think your Venn diagram is a bit off...
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Folly Beach Hokie
12/06/2021 10:20AM
Right, but we’re starting with a disease that
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 10:31AM
Agreed with one asterisk. I don't think restrictions slowed the flu
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CAVern
12/06/2021 10:51AM
I agree. But travel restrictions are
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 10:57AM
Ok, valid point. but covid was already firmly entrenched when restrictions
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CAVern
12/06/2021 11:01AM
Yeah. I think that’s fair, although the flu virus
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 12:37PM
I stared at case, H, and death curves daily just about the entire first
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CAVern
12/06/2021 1:07PM
Look at the deaths in NYC which occurred
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 1:22PM
Ok...yeah, when people were dying left and right, people abided
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CAVern
12/06/2021 1:37PM
When covid hospitalizations aren’t impacting other medical services
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757
12/06/2021 09:27AM
When governments stop relying on the precautionary principle to set policy
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 08:34AM
We are a nation that acts “out of an abundance of caution”
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757
12/06/2021 09:40AM
Yes at least for the next 13 years (see Patriot Act, Nat'l Max Speed Limit)
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 09:48AM
Oh, the precautionary principle. Damn those precautions! **
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111Balz
12/06/2021 09:00AM
The worst is when the precautionary principle
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 09:29AM
It took more than 13 years for the Patriot Act to be replaced.
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 09:24AM
They’ve already been largely eliminated. What planet do you live on? **
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 09:32AM
Planet Claire. No one ever dies there. No one has a head. **
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Seattle .Hoo
12/06/2021 09:44AM
Must be the pink air. **
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 09:46AM
One where localities are instituting broad vaccination requirements
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 09:42AM
Intrusions? You anti-vaxers are a bunch of pathetic, selfish whiners. **
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 09:49AM
Pssst, we’ve already had that for decades
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WahooMatt05
12/06/2021 09:47AM
How many businesses in Mass have ever asked for proof of smallpox vax? **
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 09:49AM
How long have people been saying smallpox is a hoax? **
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81_Hokie
12/06/2021 10:12AM
Or any vax. **
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 09:54AM
Well I wasn’t alive during a raging smallpox pandemic. **
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WahooMatt05
12/06/2021 09:54AM
How long has it been since smallpox was killing 1,000 Americans a day? **
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SixerHoo
12/06/2021 09:51AM
None recently. That one was eradicated by you know, science. **
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Seattle .Hoo
12/06/2021 09:50AM
By vaccines, and yes, vaccine mandates. **
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 09:56AM
You mean a vaccine that's 95% effective at preventing infection?
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 10:20AM
Well, I really mean a vaccine that is close to 100% effective at preventing
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 11:00AM
Close to 100%? There have been nearly 4,000 breakthrough hospitalizations
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 11:34AM
Indeed. As this link proves beyond any doubt. No wonder you didn’t link
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 12:08PM
Oh so now we care about excluding olds and fats from mortality counts
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 1:23PM
We what? How did you get any of that from my post.
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 1:43PM
He knows so little about this that he just goes around in circles **
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111Balz
12/06/2021 10:11AM
To me it’s when covid starts to look like the flu.
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BocaHoo91
12/06/2021 08:32AM
Your last point is a good one. There are some...
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Los Angeles Hoo
12/06/2021 09:53AM
This. We all want to get back to normal.
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WahooMatt05
12/06/2021 08:48AM
What's normal? When we finally do get this under control, we are likely to
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Seattle .Hoo
12/06/2021 09:37AM
COVID will ultimately be a big step back for US climate initiatives
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 09:57AM
The well is poisoned alright, but not for the reasons you state. Likely
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Seattle .Hoo
12/06/2021 10:00AM
It’s a good question that I’ve been wondering about myself. I think I sort
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 08:24AM
For my immediate family, I'm much more worried about mental health issues
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CAVern
12/06/2021 08:43AM
I thank god my sister’s kids are grown, because I think she would turn
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 08:48AM
Thanks. I think i'm mostly over the hump now that my daughter is vaxed.
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CAVern
12/06/2021 08:57AM
Orange Asswipe is either six feet under or in prison. **
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ResistHoo
12/06/2021 08:07AM
Oh it's going to be a lot deeper than 6' under but it will likely be orange **
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Hooooooooooooooo
12/06/2021 11:20AM
🎅🏼🎁 for you. So don’t be naughty! **
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757
12/06/2021 09:15AM
We wish … **
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WaxHoo
12/06/2021 08:28AM
To me, we should be there. The vaccines aren't perfect but they are good
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CAVern
12/06/2021 08:01AM
7 day moving average is presently 1,062 deaths per day. That's more than
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81_Hokie
12/06/2021 09:24AM
Are there restrictions on Broadway plays? When I say we're there, I mean
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CAVern
12/06/2021 09:35AM
As far as I know, you need proof of full vaccination (which does not
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 09:53AM
Gotcha. thanks. I don't view that as really restricted, since i am vaxed
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CAVern
12/06/2021 09:56AM
Exactly. I find 5 hours plus in a mask to be kind of daunting.
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 09:58AM
Except that far too many people are unvaccinated and are going about their
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111Balz
12/06/2021 08:07AM
Yes, I am aware. I may sound like an ass, but that's on them, imho
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CAVern
12/06/2021 08:11AM
Mostly it’s on them, but it’s also a little on us, because it extends this
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111Balz
12/06/2021 08:59AM
It is on you. Your booster could've gone to someone in a 2% vaxxed country **
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jpmHoo
12/06/2021 09:26AM
But it didn’t. It went to a CVS and I got it as part of the recommended reg
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111Balz
12/06/2021 11:11AM
Nope, it would have sat in the CVS (or whatever) freezer **
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CAVern
12/06/2021 09:36AM
Good news, small sample, but good news, is that the last two variants
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 09:07AM
I think it would take ER lines snaking around corners for hours and hours
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 08:34AM
I was in western MA over the holiday.
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FrankGallagher
12/06/2021 08:47AM
Like everybody I’m not in love with masks, but I would never make a big
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hoolstoptheheels
12/06/2021 08:54AM
Yeah. and, in virginia, we're going to become more risk tolerant come
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CAVern
12/06/2021 08:45AM
Most everything I’ve read has focused on hospitalizations and the
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111Balz
12/06/2021 07:55AM
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